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I think Weezer could have been a genuinely great band, instead of two excellent albums and then soulless nonsense.
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What if Pinkerton (1996) had been well-received?
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Hash Pipe is where they lost me. All my pothead friends heard was "hash pipe" and not the underlying story about pimping your ass out to men to buy weed.
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Island in the Sun is a great song off the Green Album. I think if they had followed Blue with anything other than Pinkerton or Make Believe then they’d still be massive. They seem to be having a resurgence over the last handful of years though. It’s Rivers’s fault for being a crybaby faggot.
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Dangerously close to being car crashed. Keep your head on a fawkin swivel.
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Don't even get me started on Weezer fans.
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I’m fawkin warnin you FAWKFACE!
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I don't know, Pinkerton has good stuff on it but as a whole I feel like it's a bit up it's own ass and I feel like if succeeded Rivers would have trailed off into some weird ass Bright Eyes territory given enough time. His kneejerk reaction to "Fine, I'll just do goofy shit then, you all win!" was an overreaction, but I never became convinced the album was unfairly maligned.
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People putting the boots to Weezer are only doing it because they're angry at themselves for missing the boat on Creed or Nickelback hate. We all like to pile-on, but save it for a band that genuinely sucks dick.
I'm all in with the Weezer and Cake, because if you squint it's the same band.
I'm all in with the Weezer and Cake, because if you squint it's the same band.
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My two favorite bands. I’m glad I went to the phones this morning because DMAN is 100% right.
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Justify any post-1996 Weezer to me outside of perhaps 5 songs.
Rivers once said Pinkerton was like getting extremely drunk at a party and spilling your guts and then being filled with extreme regret the next morning.
Yes, that’s exactly what good music should be.
Someone above said he would have become Bright Eyes. Sure, I sort of see that, but it would have still been GENUINE, instead of the FAGGOT, calculated, emotionally-distanced, “ironic”, “haha I’m not really TRYING” bullshit he put out for the next 15+ years.
I am a huge Weezer fan, but I’ll never forgive that faggot for being so thin skinned that he never legitimately tried again. After that it was all “songwriting formulas” and other gay shit. Sure Rivers you can still write a good melody, can still write a hit, everyone respects you. Now please write a lyric that is genuine and vulnerable again or GTFO.
And duck, you can still do gimmick songs and joke songs. First two albums have tons of them, but it’s not the ONLY thing. FAGGOT. Nice wasted potential, stupid.
Anyway some other time I’ll tell you how I really feel.
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It is uneven, and overall not as good as Blue, but it is - above all else - REAL. Yes lots of goofy lyrics and joke songs, but similar to Blue, there are plenty of moments that feel genuine.
Then he got so embarassed and traumatized that it wasn’t a mega hit that he made the next 20 years a response to it. Nice coping skills, stupid
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Anyone that has 5 good songs over a couple years is undeniably good. The number 5 alone just shows it's a nitpicky fan objection based on artistic choices rather than a valid criticism of the artist. Alright, so ya didn't go for the "tee hee" bullshit gimmicks... The show past you by. And that's OK! You know why? YOU STILL LIKED FIVE OF THE FAWKIN SONGS!
5 songs is a nice brisk 20 minute playlist to walk home to. You know, you kids these days have it real easy with the 5 songs. In my time we only had Twoffer Twuesdays. Leave it alone.
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See I think Pinkerton is pretty faggy. “Music needs to vulnerable.” Gross. You can’t start with a light poppy album to massive success then do a 180 to cry baby emo shit. Blue is their best one but I don’t see it being significantly better than all the other colors. It was just innovative, light, and fun. Make Believe is in my top three of theirs. You’re wasting your time arguing with me because we clearly enjoy music from much different perspectives. I don’t really like music enough to listen to it much anymore.
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I don’t think music needs to be vulnerable, but that was always part of the appeal of Weezer. Dorky rock nerd singing about his interests, that’s the appeal.
He didn’t need to write another 5 albums about teenage Japanese girls and his sexual frustrations, but it would have been nice to have lyrics that were not total disaffected nonsense.
I also think Matt Sharp had a lot more to do with the sound and feel of the first two albums than he is usually credited for. I think a lot of the weirdness came from him.
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Bzzzzt wrong! These are your delusions. Their whole catalog can be categorized as dorky, fun pop rock.
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The only thing gayer than listening to Weezer is arguing about Weezer. If we're talking vulnerable nerd music, Devo absolutely mogs them on every level except pop sensibility. Where's your career as an award-winning composer, Rivers? Faggots, whine more about the Grodge and your bittersweet youth. Yuck.
Nah, they're a good band.
Nah, they're a good band.
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Did you forget where you are?
I'd be all in with (somebody else) making a Devo thread tobehonestwitcha.