What do you think actually happened between Ant and Sue?

[Sue Lightning]

They definitely atleast cuddled and had pillow talk...

wish I could barge in on them like a demented Salafist Kool Aid Man, mid-cuddle...

Can you throw Anthony off the balcony and leave Sue for me?

 

[LockedHDD__Pot]

And let’s get this straight, per Sues recollection Anthony (being a dumbfuck) didn’t even know she was transgender.

I'm sure there was a time (maybe on the Chip podcast) when he was being kinda flirty with another trans girl & didn't realise... I think there was an edit on the old sub.
It shows he was really attracted to that mixed energy.

 

[The Talking Dead]

Cumia is a complete faggot and ignored a woman having a penis to get his dick sucked and probably also kissed her ;) . But he didn’t seek her out because of his faggotry.

Sue, you're a good egg and I like you but you're just so wrong on this. Anthony absolutely sought out Sue specifically because of her cock and he has a tranny fetish. There's no way he didn't know that beforehand.

Feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeednaaaaaaaaaaanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[BenDovid]

I'll bet they made out in one of his fast cars, at the very least.

They shared a hotel room.

You don't get a hotel to make out.

 

[Sue Lightning]

Sue, you're a good egg and I like you but you're just so wrong on this. Anthony absolutely sought out Sue specifically because of her cock and he has a tranny fetish. There's no way he didn't know that beforehand.

Feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeednaaaaaaaaaaanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The only reason I say that just can’t be true is…well, so many reasons. You’re about to get a dissertation.

First we’ll throw out Sue’s account because it could be entirely possible she believed Cumia when, after she told him she was trans, he went “Whaaaat?! Reallly?!”. So we’ll just focus on the possibility of Cumia having a tranny fetish. I only think it’s unrealistic because he’s never moved like that before or since. His only documented history with a tranny is Sue. Nothing he’s said on the air or tweeted before Sue would ever lead you to believe he was fucking trannies. He’s criticized Norton as gay for fucking trannies and said he never understood it. Maybe its my own perspective but tranny fuckers aren’t moving so quietly you literally dont know about it, especially as much as we know about it. (Look at Norton…he couldn’t even hide princess alena back in 2018)

Now let’s get to if Cumia knew before hand…I think its almost undoubtable for a couple reasons. Sue didn’t even have tits at this time. She still had a pretty manly voice so him just not knowing instinctually is ridiculous. Second, Sue had been on Bob Kellys podcast before and had met Norton and Colin (??? can’t remember this one) before. Are we to assume they didn’t know she was trans? Bullshit. So how in the world would Cumia get to know this woman, presumably through them, and NOT know she was trans. So you have a point there

Basically my point hinges on the fact that Anthony hasn’t continued this and theres no evidence of it happening before. Its not that he has a tranny fetish - He’s just an extremely closeted gay or bisexual man. Flash back in time to when that caller got on air and asked him “Why wouldn’t you sleep with Sue? She’s cute man” Anthonys response was not “What? She has a dick.” He said, and I quote, “You know, i’m still not ready to jump into that whole…SORTA GAY thing”. What do you mean “not ready”? As if you would given enough time?

Thats what i’m getting at. The point of seeking out Sue was not because he loved trannies but he saw them as a more “acceptable” avenue to be gay in.

 

[Sue Lightning]

They shared a hotel room.

You don't get a hotel to make out.

To correcT the record, again, on Sue and Anthonys account this was on different days. It sounds ridiculous but it’s the one aspect I tend to believe about the story. Theres already pictures of her sitting on his couch all daintily playing with his gun around Christmas time. That is like an insane level of comfort. I just don’t see why even get a hotel room when you’re fine with her being at your house.

 

[Jims_Maroon_Pants]

To correcT the record, again, on Sue and Anthonys account this was on different days. It sounds ridiculous but it’s the one aspect I tend to believe about the story. Theres already pictures of her sitting on his couch all daintily playing with his gun around Christmas time. That is like an insane level of comfort. I just don’t see why even get a hotel room when you’re fine with her being at your house.

Yes, feet were on the couch. Sue was definitely comfortable being there.
Has anyone directly asked what Sue and Ant did?.

 

[The Talking Dead]

The only reason I say that just can’t be true is…well, so many reasons. You’re about to get a dissertation.

First we’ll throw out Sue’s account because it could be entirely possible she believed Cumia when, after she told him she was trans, he went “Whaaaat?! Reallly?!”. So we’ll just focus on the possibility of Cumia having a tranny fetish. I only think it’s unrealistic because he’s never moved like that before or since. His only documented history with a tranny is Sue. Nothing he’s said on the air or tweeted before Sue would ever lead you to believe he was fucking trannies. He’s criticized Norton as gay for fucking trannies and said he never understood it. Maybe its my own perspective but tranny fuckers aren’t moving so quietly you literally dont know about it, especially as much as we know about it. (Look at Norton…he couldn’t even hide princess alena back in 2018)

Now let’s get to if Cumia knew before hand…I think its almost undoubtable for a couple reasons. Sue didn’t even have tits at this time. She still had a pretty manly voice so him just not knowing instinctually is ridiculous. Second, Sue had been on Bob Kellys podcast before and had met Norton and Colin (??? can’t remember this one) before. Are we to assume they didn’t know she was trans? Bullshit. So how in the world would Cumia get to know this woman, presumably through them, and NOT know she was trans. So you have a point there

Basically my point hinges on the fact that Anthony hasn’t continued this and theres no evidence of it happening before. Its not that he has a tranny fetish - He’s just an extremely closeted gay or bisexual man. Flash back in time to when that caller got on air and asked him “Why wouldn’t you sleep with Sue? She’s cute man” Anthonys response was not “What? She has a dick.” He said, and I quote, “You know, i’m still not ready to jump into that whole…SORTA GAY thing”. What do you mean “not ready”? As if you would given enough time?

Thats what i’m getting at. The point of seeking out Sue was not because he loved trannies but he saw them as a more “acceptable” avenue to be gay in.

Y..yes. Sue as I said, I like you. But you're honestly as incomprehensible as Joe Cumia.

Can we just agree on this - Anthony Cumia is gay (and black)?

 

[The Talking Dead]

They shared a hotel room.

You don't get a hotel to make out.

I'm absolutely loathe to quote AND rib Danny Ross but ^^^

 

[Sue Lightning]

You know its really funny because Anthonys justification for this whole ordeal is something about how we just hate trannies and can’t let him be friends with one without speculating they’re having sex. When obviously thats not the point. The reason its so fucking weird is:

1. The initial discovery, in which, Sue was commenting on his posts about riding in his car, sitting on his couch, in the hotel he’s at, and getting venmo transactions from him
2. The strange PR level denial, in which everything is scrubbed, Sue does a damage control AMA, Anthony never mentions her again and pulls up the “SO WHAT IF WE HAD SEX?? IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT??” defense.

 

[NoBacon]

They had gay sex because he looked like an underage fem boy and he was also confused and needed a father figure / money.

End of story.

 

[Sue Lightning]

Has anyone directly asked what Sue and Ant did?.

To who? They both deny it so theres no specifics. But people around the situation have only offered vagaries. Keith infamously stated “Anthony mightve dabbled in Sue” and one of Sues friends from her old whoring days said she “did what she had to do”.

 

[RoTheHo69]

wish I could barge in on them like a demented Salafist Kool Aid Man, mid-cuddle...

wallahi

 

[Sue Lightning]

They shared a hotel room.

You don't get a hotel to make out.

Yes, feet were on the couch. Sue was definitely comfortable being there.

 

[Sue Lightning]

“Sue was really fun, and a good person to hang out with”

What the fuck is he even talking about? Imagine Nana “hanging out” with someone. What the hell does that consist of? He doesn’t “hang out” with ANYONE but sure, random tranny, come to my house.

“Sue was really fun” is telling. That is something you say about a girl who fucked you good, not your friend you “barely even knew.”

 

[whippinghuskies]

Yes, feet were on the couch. Sue was definitely comfortable being there.
Has anyone directly asked what Sue and Ant did?.

Someone on reddit reached out to one of Sue's friends, who said about the Sue/Anthony ordeal, " it was out of desperation and necessity.," implication being there was Transactual sex involved. Sue got the boltons almost immediately afterwards.

 

[guest]

"notabevigoda" got my ribs...it really is just 3-4 sassters

 

[whippinghuskies]

You know its really funny because Anthonys justification for this whole ordeal is something about how we just hate trannies and can’t let him be friends with one without speculating they’re having sex. When obviously thats not the point. The reason its so fucking weird is:

1. The initial discovery, in which, Sue was commenting on his posts about riding in his car, sitting on his couch, in the hotel he’s at, and getting venmo transactions from him
2. The strange PR level denial, in which everything is scrubbed, Sue does a damage control AMA, Anthony never mentions her again and pulls up the “SO WHAT IF WE HAD SEX?? IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT??” defense.

Not only that, it was all but confirmed when someone reached out to one of Sue's tranny friends, and they said of the debacle what Sue did was out of necessity.

 

[LockedHDD__Pot]

after she told him she was trans, he went “Whaaaat?!

I think he knew deep-down but just denied it (probably even to himself), but the attraction was real.

I might tell you a hot story oneday... at this point who gives a fuck, people know I'm at least a little bit fruity, & it's a gud'n

 

[TorpidSloth]

They shared a hotel room.

You don't get a hotel to make out.

Coming from one of Anthony's former lovers, this kind of info carries a lot of weight.