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WWAW US/UK about to formally declare war on Russia?

JebJoh

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Ok well we are at loggerheads then. You believe it's required that we continue this to our own detriment despite having our own problems and I do not. Don't think it's fruitful to continue. At least this time we didn't end up saying horrible things to each other so . Success?
I’ll gladly agree that you are right about us wasting money here. But I still believe we owe our allies whatever we promised them. I also see a bleak future for Europe if Putin controls the largest wheat supply and the massive natural gas supplies that all of europe depends on. In the long run, a free Ukraine will save 10 times what we’ve wasted defending them in the short term.
 

NoBacon

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Let me put this in serious terms that grown ups like Jeb and Sue understand and us Fox News simpletons don’t.

Putin = Voldemort
Biden = Dumbledore
Zelensky = Harry Potter

Any videos of the immense human suffering occuring there are fake because Dumbledore never gave up.
 

JebJoh

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Let me put this in serious terms that grown ups like Jeb and Sue understand and us Fox News simpletons don’t.

Putin = Voldemort
Biden = Dumbledore
Zelensky = Harry Potter

Any videos of the immense human suffering occuring there are fake because Dumbledore never gave up.
Yeah, hard to take you seriously after knowing a bit about you.
 

safka15

Äkki annan sulle ka lõuatäie?!
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They are rounding up kids, old people and women to send them to die in trenches fighting Russian’s for what reason? They are only still doing it because we bankroll it with the condition they don’t enter peace talks. It’s profoundly wrong.
when did the alt-right turn into such cucks? they are fighting for their country, that is pretty based.
 

Jack_Horner

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I also don’t give a fuck either way and don’t see why we need to spend 100s of billions and risk nuclear war over it, if we didn’t bankroll them it would have ended shortly after it started and 500k men wouldn’t have died in a terrifying trench war.

It gets better:

If you dig into the financial side, Wall Street is lending money to Ukraine.

IE:

1) If Ukraine wins, they'll owe billions of dollars to Wall St investors.

2) If Ukraine loses, those same investors will certainly be bailed out by taxpayers. The administration will say they were doing it for "patriotic reasons" and need to be "made whole."

The war debt from World War II wasn't paid off until 2008 IIRC.
 

NoBacon

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It gets better:

If you dig into the financial side, Wall Street is lending money to Ukraine.

IE:

1) If Ukraine wins, they'll owe billions of dollars to Wall St investors.

2) If Ukraine loses, those same investors will certainly be bailed out by taxpayers. The administration will say they were doing it for "patriotic reasons" and need to be "made whole."

The war debt from World War II wasn't paid off until 2008 IIRC.

It’s just a way for (((blackrock))) to steal their farm land
 

Mike Glyer

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We send them billions and military equipment and they've had no luck turning Russia back. That is a fact. They have no chance of recapturing the Donbas or most of the territory Russia has captured. They won't Lose as long as we keep artificially pumping them up, but they won't Win. N ch like in Vietnam, as long as our troops held the areas around the border, northern forces couldn't invade en masse from loss and Cambodia, but the minute we pulled out? Overran.

All the arguments for supporting Ukraine (vs just doing it because Russia=Bad) are based on Sunk Cost Effect. If we pull out that money is wasted so we keep throwing good money over bad hoping Russia quits or collapse. But idiots like Patrick have been saying since the beginning Russia was just about to run out of fuel/ammo/vehicles/men and it hasn't happened. Having a strategy based on hopes and dreams isn't a reason to continue a war, let alone escalate it
I just view it as a theatre of a larger war that everybody is involved in but nobody is declaring. Russia is trying to re-establish the Soviet Union/Russian Empire, China is going to take Taiwan and take over the world's busiest shipping lane, Iran and N Korea trying to eliminate their rivals which also takes us down a peg. I think Russia's move into Ukraine was supposed to be step 1 in the larger war - with China throwing the second punch.

I don't need Ukraine to capture the Donbass region tomorrow. Keeping the second largest geopolitical rival to the USA bogged down while costing zero US lives while the Ukrainians get to defend their county...meh, I'm ok with it.
 

Mike Glyer

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Yeah, hard to take you seriously after knowing a bit about you.
You just have to understand that he's depressed and submissive. Nothing is worth fighting for. Just let whatever happen, maaaan. Some guy comes into your house and tries to fuck your wife? Don't cause any additional suffering by fighting back. Just let the scenario of least resistance/suffering happen.
 

safka15

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You just have to understand that he's depressed and submissive. Nothing is worth fighting for. Just let whatever happen, maaaan. Some guy comes into your house and tries to fuck your wife? Don't cause any additional suffering by fighting back. Just let the scenario of least resistance/suffering happen.
Wait so it was some random guys kid that @NoBacon aborted?
 

CuntFucker .

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I think that’s something you anti NB fags don’t understand, I’m not saying I’m a geopolitical expert and understand everything, I’m saying for uninformed normal people like us it’s simple. Don’t advocate for wars you wouldn’t enlist in, if you do, you’re a piece of shit.
The fake humility is the worst part, seriously. Don't do that, sir.
 

Gay Faggot.

When the frying pan hits just right.
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I was about to make a post calling out @Sue Lightning for at best being as retarded as you. With the added known faggotry that he regurgitates what he finds on google and is utterly incapable of any actual thought. He’s just a Gen Z Cumia. However? I saw this post with this thumbnail and whatever this is, is gayer than anything else that’s going to be posted. Go play with your figurines and pretend to be Superman who gets hot babes and kills niggers all day. Or whatever you do with that gay shit.
 

NoBacon

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I was about to make a post calling out @Sue Lightning for at best being as retarded as you. With the added known faggotry that he regurgitates what he finds on google and is utterly incapable of any actual thought. He’s just a Gen Z Cumia. However? I saw this post with this thumbnail and whatever this is, is gayer than anything else that’s going to be posted. Go play with your figurines and pretend to be Superman who gets hot babes and kills niggers all day. Or whatever you do with that gay shit.

If you can’t afford an awesome warhammer hobby, you can just admit it, nobody will judge you here.
 

Gay Faggot.

When the frying pan hits just right.
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I’ve downsized my set up massively into one box I can get out, when I get off work I’ll post a picture for you to enjoy
While I would advise against it, your detractors are actually too retarded to use it against you. It’s truly shocking. Somehow they get more obsessed with your probably around 60-70% true politics than they do the fact you openly admit to spending a lot of money (for Panera bread workers/truckers) on figurines and figurine accessories.
 

Mass.gov

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This is how pathetic pro-West Ukrainians are in 2024 (blinded by their hatred of Russia):

Imagine Canada funded, trained and armed by the Chinese, try to take Michigan's upper peninsula based on some shoddy claim on the Great Lakes' Straits of Mackinac. Now keep in mind, the Canadians KNOW the Chinese could give two fucks about them, but somehow convinced Chinese "gibs" will be the game changer in their quest for liberating upper Michigan (which they convinced themselves, always belonged to them).

Now never mind the ppl of Michigan and the ppl of Ontario are basically indistinguishable...the desire for Chinese gibs (analogous to EU membership, bla bla) is blinding the Canadians into a suicidal need to right wrongs via a losing war. When the Canadians are about to realize "Man, these Americans are like 10x our size, we can never win!"...the Chinese dangle a newer carrot, some new Chinese hypersonic missile, some new drone, etc. And the Canadians get blinded again.

The Canadians die, some county in Michigan is taken for a bit, all of Windsor is just a blacksite full of places Chinese do all sorts of experiments, etc. Canadian women get trafficked...Canada is depopulated, etc, all so the Chinese can curb American ambitions.
 

NoBacon

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While I would advise against it, your detractors are actually too retarded to use it against you. It’s truly shocking. Somehow they get more obsessed with your probably around 60-70% true politics than they do the fact you openly admit to spending a lot of money (for Panera bread workers/truckers) on figurines and figurine accessories.

It takes a lot of patience and know how to make them look great, it’s relaxing and it’s a skill. Playing the actual game? Fugettabou’ it! That takes a lot of analytical ability, math and temperance, it’s complex and you have to study multiple codex’s.

How is that embarrassing but wearing a jersey and cheering on men doing a sport you can’t personally do not?

I don’t watch football, but I play it occasionally. The only sport I watch but wouldn’t do is stuff like F1 racing, I hate driving fast.

Warhammer is a meditation and skill building, and the average hobbyist you meet is just a cool 4chan racist who bullies faggots like Sue out of the store. That’s why they fail to bring in woke gay additions.
 

PorqueDealer

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While I would advise against it, your detractors are actually too retarded to use it against you. It’s truly shocking. Somehow they get more obsessed with your probably around 60-70% true politics than they do the fact you openly admit to spending a lot of money (for Panera bread workers/truckers) on figurines and figurine accessories.

^this gay faggot probably doesn't even have any Nerf guns.
 
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