Nana is drinking again

[Jack_Horner]

It's hilarious that he actually thinks he was being good by "only" having a couple of glasses of wine a day since his surgery (you know "coupla glasses" = a bottle). He is such a stereotypical in denial alcoholic. There is literally no hope for him now. He clearly cannot function without booze, which is a real indicator of what a miserable person he is despite the chuckling, happy-go-lucky persona he tries so desperately to put on.

He'll absolutely be dead within the next 5 years and then the vultures aka Missy and Joe, can circle his corpse for whatever shekels he has left. Nice life and legacy, stupid. Feed Nana.

This shit is hitting way too close for me:

Back in 2008-ish, I thought Ant was "cool" and I definitely admired his McMansion and his cars and him getting big titty porn stars to hang out in his hot tub. Ant was honestly a factor in my decision to live alone, during that era.

After living alone for a while, I could see that it was really impacting my mental health. For instance, there was one night where I went out to dinner (eating alone, of course) and I remember being pissed because the waitress was making small talk with me. The longer I lived alone, the less I wanted to talk to ANYONE.

I was also seeing that every year I got older, it was getting harder and harder to date. I felt like I was headed towards a scenario where I'd be living alone, mad at the world, drinking 24x7, and just generally being an alcoholic self-destructive hermit.

So I got married and settled down.

When Ant got fired, my FIRST THOUGHT was that it would be INCREDIBLY easy for him to blame EVERYTHING on booze and pills. Ant was drunk all the time.

I really and truly think that O&A could have lasted as a show, if Ant had just checked into rehab immediately. The media doesn't like racism, but it tends to give people a pass if they blame everything on booze, drugs and hookers. Tom Sizemore was getting acting gigs a long time after his life went off the rails.

I had to stop drinking a year ago, because I basically trashed my liver. Yesterday I was talking to my wife, about the fact that I have a hard time getting excited about things that I used to love. For instance, I used to looooooove pouring a big tumbler of grapefruit juice and vodka, and then I would make art, sometimes for two days in a row. I was obsessed. And I've really lost enthusiasm for it now, and I couldn't figure out why. If you saw the office that I'm typing this in, it looks like someone's art studio exploded; there's just shit all over the place, from various projects that I've been working on, some for 10+ years. (I once worked on a piece, every day, for an entire year.)

And then my wife explained what's going on: I'm depressed.

It had never even crossed my mind, but I'd basically been pouring vodka into my face hole for decades, and now that I don't drink, the things that I used to love seem kinda stupid. I never actually finish any of my art pieces, I just have a bunch that are half-assed and half-finished. But it looks like the reason I never finished anything was because it was never about finishing something, making art was just something I liked to do while getting fucked up.

When I was 21 I had to stop playing videogames because my obsession with them was ruining my life (lost my job, flunked out of college), and I've always been a bit of a snob about people who spend the weekends pounding beers and playing Playstation. But I'd never even noticed that I'd just replaced "playing videogames" with "making art" and then turned it into the self destruction olympics with liters of vodka.

 

[Sue Lightning]

He will be daily drinking by christmas, probably sooner

I give it till July. That will be the 10 year anniversary of his firing and it will no doubt bring up sour feelings.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

I give it till July. That will be the 10 year anniversary of his firing and it will no doubt bring up sour feelings.

 

[Jack_Horner]

He could have turned it all around right then if he listened to Bennington and took his advice to heart. Now it's too late.

The thing that got me to realize that Ant was a complete fucking retard was the Jill Nicolini situation.

First off, it was just batshit insane that a former Playboy model was so hard up for a partner, that she'd date a ghoul like him. But the thing that REALLY made me realize that Ant was an ass, was that he not only cheated on her, and blew up his relationship, he then proceeded to burn that bridge to the ground by viciously shitting on her for an entire hour on the radio.

 

[Sue Lightning]

This shit is hitting way too close for me:

Back in 2008-ish, I thought Ant was "cool" and I definitely admired his McMansion and his cars and him getting big titty porn stars to hang out in his hot tub. Ant was honestly a factor in my decision to live alone, during that era.

After living alone for a while, I could see that it was really impacting my mental health. For instance, there was one night where I went out to dinner (eating alone, of course) and I remember being pissed because the waitress was making small talk with me. The longer I lived alone, the less I wanted to talk to ANYONE.

I was also seeing that every year I got older, it was getting harder and harder to date. I felt like I was headed towards a scenario where I'd be living alone, mad at the world, drinking 24x7, and just generally being an alcoholic self-destructive hermit.

So I got married and settled down.

When Ant got fired, my FIRST THOUGHT was that it would be INCREDIBLY easy for him to blame EVERYTHING on booze and pills. Ant was drunk all the time.

I really and truly think that O&A could have lasted as a show, if Ant had just checked into rehab immediately. The media doesn't like racism, but it tends to give people a pass if they blame everything on booze, drugs and hookers. Tom Sizemore was getting acting gigs a long time after his life went off the rails.

I had to stop drinking a year ago, because I basically trashed my liver. Yesterday I was talking to my wife, about the fact that I have a hard time getting excited about things that I used to love. For instance, I used to looooooove pouring a big tumbler of grapefruit juice and vodka, and then I would make art, sometimes for two days in a row. I was obsessed. And I've really lost enthusiasm for it now, and I couldn't figure out why. If you saw the office that I'm typing this in, it looks like someone's art studio exploded; there's just shit all over the place, from various projects that I've been working on, some for 10+ years. (I once worked on a piece, every day, for an entire year.)

And then my wife explained what's going on: I'm depressed.

It had never even crossed my mind, but I'd basically been pouring vodka into my face hole for decades, and now that I don't drink, the things that I used to love seem kinda stupid. I never actually finish any of my art pieces, I just have a bunch that are half-assed and half-finished. But it looks like the reason I never finished anything was because it was never about finishing something, making art was just something I liked to do while getting fucked up.

When I was 21 I had to stop playing videogames because my obsession with them was ruining my life (lost my job, flunked out of college), and I've always been a bit of a snob about people who spend the weekends pounding beers and playing Playstation. But I'd never even noticed that I'd just replaced "playing videogames" with "making art" and then turned it into the self destruction olympics with liters of vodka.

Nice life story, stupid.

But sherioushly folksh you’re on the money, especially about being depressed. Nana is in a tough spot in regards to his alcoholism:

1. He has no emotional self awareness. Even if he were depressed he can never realize thats what it is. And even if he can realize what it is his upbringing and general machismo makes him unable to admit this to others let alone himself.
2. He is utterly unaware of how his life revolves around drinking.

Now I have my own little analogy but i’ll keep it brief. Back in high school everything revolved around smoking weed. You hang out with friends, go out to eat, go on vacation, go to school, anything, you smoke weed first. The friends that stopped smoking weed you ended up not hanging out with anymore. Not out of some “Oh bro you’re gay” shit but because there was now no purpose to hang out. I mean, how are we gonna have fun if we don’t smoke first?!

That is essentially what Nanas life has become. I had the self awareness to realize what this problem was at like 17 but he’s fucking 60. Every social activity and even his entire career is dependent on drinking. Even when he went “cold turkey” after the surgery he could be seen on every show gripping a glass bottle all white knuckled because if he can’t actually drink he has to fool himself into thinking he is to retain the “fun”.

And like you said the reason for all this, beyond his addiction, is because he’s depressed. Wouldn’t you be? His life is completely fucking empty. If you gave me Ants life of streaming for 2 hours to complete nobodies then having to fuck Missy I would HAVE to drink to get myself through that. And i’ve gone over this many times but one of the reasons Anthony can’t admit any of this is because he doesn’t want to be seen as a “victim” or “crybaby” when I think I can say we would ALL respect him more if he just manned up and explained that his life has fallen apart and its not something to be proud of, or something that can be plastered over with this “HAHAHA IM DOING GREAT NOTHINGS WRONG” attitude.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

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“Artie is on his way, he’ll be here any minute.”
Meanwhile, back in an apartment in Hoboken:

20 minutes later: HAAHHAA HOOLLYYY SHIIIT! Let’s go to the phones.

 

[The Talking Dead]

and blew up his relationship, he then proceeded to burn that bridge to the ground by viciously shitting on her for an entire hour on the radio.

Replace "her" with "him" in that sentence and you have the exact same thing he did with Opie. The one thing he's honest about in the video in this thread is that he's always been immature. He responds to relationships breaking down like some overly emotional teenage girl going through their first breakup. He's so catty and pathetic that he feels like he has to get revenge for being rejected. I'm sure the Jewish, mentally and vertically challenged person known as @BenDovid can attest to this.

 

[Sue Lightning]

The one thing he's honest about in the video in this thread is that he's always been immature.

But who gives a fuck? It’s not real self awareness. Nana has gotten away with this shit since O&A was at it’s peak. His ballwashers act like he’s the most internally intellectual person they’ve ever seen because he allows his guests to mock surface level non offensive stuff (You’re a gun nut!) and Ant can say “You know i’m not that good of a friend!”

Ok Anthony. You’re immature. You realized the problem. Now the other half is actually fucking doing something about it. Because self awareness isn’t just being aware of the problem itself but the why and how and then being aware enough to realize it has to change. He has none of the latter. He’ll just say he’s a shitty friend or immature to let everyone know “Hey, if you befriend me, just know i’m a shitty awful person who will fuck you over, and if you have a problem with that i’ll just sit back and say WHAT I TOLD YOU and make it out so that YOU BEING OFFENDED by my lack of giving a shit is YOUR PROBLEM”

When obviously it’s not. It’s him and it’s always been him. And it’s why everyone around him drops like fucking flies. And why he constantly questions why everyone is leaving him. And then he does nothing about it. I don’t think i can hate a single person more than him.

 

[The Talking Dead]

And it’s why everyone around him drops like fucking flies. And why he constantly questions why everyone is leaving him. And then he does nothing about it.

He's essentially this but 60 years old (pissing himself from alcoholism of course)...

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

But who gives a fuck? It’s not real self awareness. Nana has gotten away with this shit since O&A was at it’s peak. His ballwashers act like he’s the most internally intellectual person they’ve ever seen because he allows his guests to mock surface level non offensive stuff (You’re a gun nut!) and Ant can say “You know i’m not that good of a friend!”

Ok Anthony. You’re immature. You realized the problem. Now the other half is actually fucking doing something about it. Because self awareness isn’t just being aware of the problem itself but the why and how and then being aware enough to realize it has to change. He has none of the latter. He’ll just say he’s a shitty friend or immature to let everyone know “Hey, if you befriend me, just know i’m a shitty awful person who will fuck you over, and if you have a problem with that i’ll just sit back and say WHAT I TOLD YOU and make it out so that YOU BEING OFFENDED by my lack of giving a shit is YOUR PROBLEM”

When obviously it’s not. It’s him and it’s always been him. And it’s why everyone around him drops like fucking flies. And why he constantly questions why everyone is leaving him. And then he does nothing about it. I don’t think i can hate a single person more than him.

I’ll kind of take the opposite opinion here and state that the biggest reason Ant was so hilarious is that he’s a gigantic piece of garbage. Being evicted from a house then backing your truck through the garage door and taking the company van to go jet skiing is actually hysterical in a sordid kind of way. It’d be more forgivable if he leaned into it instead of cosplaying as a family values type guy. His biggest problem was never picking a lane. Ant’s childhood tales are hilarious because he came from a broken F/N household where they moved in the middle of the night because they were dodgin’ landlords. Compare that to Opie’s stories of having an air guitar band in college. Ant deserves what he gets but half his original charm was being a scumbag. The real issue is how horrific it gets after it stops being funny.

 

[Sue Lightning]

“The real issue is how horrific it gets after it stops being funny.”

Which is why it’s entertaining when Nana tells stories of him being shitty 30 years ago. It stops being entertaining when he’s doing shit like explaining how they had to take his girlfriend to pediatrics. Not only is the story not funny but it’s fucking creepy, happened yesterday, and the dude is telling it as if it’s a genuinely charming story, like a crazy groupie story you read in a rockstars book. Or the Nicollini story the other user brought up. It’s fucking hilarious to hear this dude trash, live on air, his ex girlfriend with embarrassing stories and personal details. But viewed in the bigger picture its just another one of those “Why are you telling this like it makes you look good? You’re a shitty person no matter how funny this is.”

The humor of Opie and Anthony was of course that they were all pieces of shit and the humor was meanspirited. But I think you can come up with mean humor without also being a literal kid fucking ghoul. I’m trying to think of a retarded analogy for this. It’s like finding out the rapper you like is a genuine pedophile. “Whoa whoa whoa, I can tolerate you being in a gang and selling crack and killing people and rapping about that, but you fuck kids??”. The worst thing that ever happened to Anthony beyond his firing was people getting a look into his personal life. The Dani shit really destroyed his entire bravado of being a tough guy and it wasn’t even a few months after that that SelfCuttingGirl and Sue Lightning broke which was like a triple whammy for his image.

To make another analogy, it’s like listening to old O&A episodes and hearing Jimmy make gay or tranny jokes. It becomes less funny when you realize it’s seriously not a joke and he’s gonna end up marrying one.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

I’ll kind of take the opposite opinion here and state that the biggest reason Ant was so hilarious is that he’s a gigantic piece of garbage. Being evicted from a house then backing your truck through the garage door and taking the company van to go jet skiing is actually hysterical in a sordid kind of way. It’d be more forgivable if he leaned into it instead of cosplaying as a family values type guy. His biggest problem was never picking a lane. Ant’s childhood tales are hilarious because he came from a broken F/N household where they moved in the middle of the night because they were dodgin’ landlords. Compare that to Opie’s stories of having an air guitar band in college. Ant deserves what he gets but half his original charm was being a scumbag. The real issue is how horrific it gets after it stops being funny.

Opie was traumatized by his mom vacuuming too much and Ant was beaten for stealing change to buy ice cream sandwiches when he was hungry. No wonder why one could keep the show in tact and do the grown up part of the business while the other could be hilarious but also lacked the discipline to show up on time.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

Which is why it’s entertaining when Nana tells stories of him being shitty 30 years ago. It stops being entertaining when he’s doing shit like explaining how they had to take his girlfriend to pediatrics. Not only is the story not funny but it’s fucking creepy, happened yesterday, and the dude is telling it as if it’s a genuinely charming story, like a crazy groupie story you read in a rockstars book. Or the Nicollini story the other user brought up. It’s fucking hilarious to hear this dude trash, live on air, his ex girlfriend with embarrassing stories and personal details. But viewed in the bigger picture its just another one of those “Why are you telling this like it makes you look good? You’re a shitty person no matter how funny this is.”

The humor of Opie and Anthony was of course that they were all pieces of shit and the humor was meanspirited. But I think you can come up with mean humor without also being a literal kid fucking ghoul. I’m trying to think of a retarded analogy for this. It’s like finding out the rapper you like is a genuine pedophile. “Whoa whoa whoa, I can tolerate you being in a gang and selling crack and killing people and rapping about that, but you fuck kids??”. The worst thing that ever happened to Anthony beyond his firing was people getting a look into his personal life. The Dani shit really destroyed his entire bravado of being a tough guy and it wasn’t even a few months after that that SelfCuttingGirl and Sue Lightning broke which was like a triple whammy for his image.

To make another analogy, it’s like listening to old O&A episodes and hearing Jimmy make gay or tranny jokes. It becomes less funny when you realize it’s seriously not a joke and he’s gonna end up marrying one.

Yeah, the Nicolini shit (scorch.jpeg) is just petty. He clearly never developed the social skills to break up with a chick in a healthy way. I lost a lot of respect for Ant when I heard that compilation.

 

[eggfella]

He is gonna die a miserable drunk just like Lady Di.

even she seems happier spending the remainder of her days in whatever seafaring wetbrain daydream she’s permanently living in. at least she’s sober. any recent updates on her?

 

[Sue Lightning]

Opie was traumatized by his mom vacuuming too much and Ant was beaten for stealing change to buy ice cream sandwiches when he was hungry. No wonder why one could keep the show in tact and do the grown up part of the business while the other could be hilarious but also lacked the discipline to show up on time.

I hate to get all psychological but their upbringings influenced both of them (obviously). Nana was completely scared of conflict because his only conception of it ends in yelling, hitting, and divorce. Opies upbringing is a little more mysterious (especially because you can’t tell whats been exaggerated) but whatever he went through resulted in him realizing you try to fix shit before you declare it broken. Opie talked, what, a million times about how horrible his mother was to him? But even he never abandoned her, just talked passive aggressively about her.

So when the show was on it’s way out thats exactly what happened. Anthony shirked all responsibility and when questioned went “Nah man everythings fine we’re all good!” because he feared confrontation. And Opie may have hated Ant deep down but he realized the importance of #LAFAMIGLIA and tried to fix things, no matter how futile it was. And to take this connection further what did Opie do after Ant was fired? Realized, just like his mom, this was too much for his mental health and he needed to walk away. (It’s no coincidence Opie went to therapy for his mom AND Anthony.) And when Ant got fired he shrank back into his non confrontational shell, lashing out in private.

Yeah, the Nicolini shit (scorch.jpeg) is just petty. He clearly never developed the social skills to break up with a chick in a healthy way. I lost a lot of respect for Ant when I heard that compilation.

Again it’s all psychological. Nana can’t process the idea of breaking up with someone without it ending in broken homes, screaming, insults, and physical beatings. He gets so in his head about this he pushes down negative feelings and ends up fucking other women which causes even MORE confrontation. (Opie literally said this himself about their own beef - Ants avoidance of issues caused a greater blow up than what it could have ever started as.) Then Anthony can’t bring himself to ever admit he could be in the wrong, so of course it was Nicolinis responsibility to realize Nana was unhappy and end the relationship for him. It’s no coincidence the dude sees no problem with flying in whores to fuck them because he can’t end his relationship - Just like his dad did to his mom. And then the cherry on top of this entire situation is Anthony freaking the fuck out that Nicolini is dating someone else. Again, to get psychological, his fathers divorce gave him abandonment issues so even if he intellectually and emotionally wants to get out of a situation he can’t, because this would mean being “alone”. So he wants to have his cake and eat it too. “I get to cheat on you and fuck whores but you can’t get into another relationship after I do that.” It’s the same reason he reached out to Dani a year or two ago, you know, despite beating her in the face.

Anthony has always been like this. When he was inbetween high school and his AC career he was fucking an 18 year old who let him stay at her house (he was like mid 20’s.) and he cheated on her and got in a new relationship. Then he did that with his wife. Then he did that with Nicolini. Then he did that with the broad after her (Melissa?). Then he did that with Missy. Again, relative to my previous point, if this man had a shred of self awareness he would realize why this keeps happening, that it’s fucked up, and that it CAN’T keep happening. Not even for these women's sakes but for his own. Not every relationship should end with the woman scorned.

I forgot what I was getting at

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

Yeah, the Nicolini shit (scorch.jpeg) is just petty. He clearly never developed the social skills to break up with a chick in a healthy way. I lost a lot of respect for Ant when I heard that compilation.

If you listen to the whole Nicolini saga compilation there’s a part where Keith needs to get Jill her ridiculous Starbucks drink and he keeps the change out of a 100 “as a fee” because Ant is going on vacation with just her next week so by extension he hurt Keith’s feelings. Ant then “hahaha holly shiits” then leaves it alone.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

I hate to get all psychological but their upbringings influenced both of them (obviously). Nana was completely scared of conflict because his only conception of it ends in yelling, hitting, and divorce. Opies upbringing is a little more mysterious (especially because you can’t tell whats been exaggerated) but whatever he went through resulted in him realizing you try to fix shit before you declare it broken. Opie talked, what, a million times about how horrible his mother was to him? But even he never abandoned her, just talked passive aggressively about her.

So when the show was on it’s way out thats exactly what happened. Anthony shirked all responsibility and when questioned went “Nah man everythings fine we’re all good!” because he feared confrontation. And Opie may have hated Ant deep down but he realized the importance of #LAFAMIGLIA and tried to fix things, no matter how futile it was. And to take this connection further what did Opie do after Ant was fired? Realized, just like his mom, this was too much for his mental health and he needed to walk away. (It’s no coincidence Opie went to therapy for his mom AND Anthony.) And when Ant got fired he shrank back into his non confrontational shell, lashing out in private.


Again it’s all psychological. Nana can’t process the idea of breaking up with someone without it ending in broken homes, screaming, insults, and physical beatings. He gets so in his head about this he pushes down negative feelings and ends up fucking other women which causes even MORE confrontation. (Opie literally said this himself about their own beef - Ants avoidance of issues caused a greater blow up than what it could have ever started as.) Then Anthony can’t bring himself to ever admit he could be in the wrong, so of course it was Nicolinis responsibility to realize Nana was unhappy and end the relationship for him. It’s no coincidence the dude sees no problem with flying in whores to fuck them because he can’t end his relationship - Just like his dad did to his mom. And then the cherry on top of this entire situation is Anthony freaking the fuck out that Nicolini is dating someone else. Again, to get psychological, his divorce gave him abandonment issues so even if he intellectually and emotionally wants to get out of a situation he can’t, because this would mean being “alone”. So he wants to have his cake and eat it too. “I get to cheat on you and fuck whores but you can’t get into another relationship after I do that.” It’s the same reason he reached out to Dani a year or two ago, you know, despite beating her in the face.

Anthony has always been like this. When he was inbetween high school and his AC career he was fucking an 18 year old who let him stay at her house (he was like mid 20’s.) and he cheated on her and got in a new relationship. Then he did that with his wife. Then he did that with Nicolini. Then he did that with the broad after her (Melissa?). Then he did that with Missy. Again, relative to my previous point, if this man had a shred of self awareness he would realize why this keeps happening, that it’s fucked up, and that it CAN’T keep happening. Not even for these women's sakes but for his own. Not every relationship should end with the woman scorned.

I forgot what I was getting at

I once broke up with a girlfriend by blocking her number. Ant is really relatable to Blue Collar America until he really let the mask slip off. Who else hasn’t left the jobsite at noon on a Friday to go drink at a bar?

 

[Sue Lightning]

And i’ve gone over this many times but one of the reasons Anthony can’t admit any of this is because he doesn’t want to be seen as a “victim” or “crybaby”

It’s funny because in the Nicolini saga a caller brings up that Anthonys parents marriage caused his issue of confrontational avoidance and he absolutely blows up on them and denies it. He then segues into a story about how Melinda brought him into couples therapy and “GODDAMN THEY MADE ME THE VILLIAN! EVERYTHING WAS MY FAULT!” You know what that screams to me? Narcissism and a lack of self awareness. If you were truly self aware you would realize that, yes, YOU CAUSE PROBLEMS. We all do and it doesn’t matter how perfect you are. Sure it hurts to hear you’re fucking up but any sane person would go “Ok, I fucked up, what can I do to fix this or NOT fuck up anymore?” But Anthony of course just blew it off and as always came to the conclusion that he’s never the problem and everyones just out to get him. One of his biggest problems was Melinda claiming “Well, I don’t think I ever loved you” and him being shocked at this, because, in his own words “LOOK AT THAT SHIT I BOUGHT YOU!”. Anthony in his own warped mind cannot even process that hooking up with an intern blowing 18 year old from a poor family is maybe not the best recipe for genuine love and that, SHOCKINGLY, the relationship will be transactional.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

It’s funny because in the Nicolini saga a caller brings up that Anthonys parents marriage caused his issue of confrontational avoidance and he absolutely blows up on them and denies it. He then segues into a story about how Melinda brought him into couples therapy and “GODDAMN THEY MADE ME THE VILLIAN! EVERYTHING WAS MY FAULT!” You know what that screams to me? Narcissism and a lack of self awareness. If you were truly self aware you would realize that, yes, YOU CAUSE PROBLEMS. We all do and it doesn’t matter how perfect you are. Sure it hurts to hear you’re fucking up but any sane person would go “Ok, I fucked up, what can I do to fix this or NOT fuck up anymore?” But Anthony of course just blew it off and as always came to the conclusion that he’s never the problem and everyones just out to get him. One of his biggest problems was Melinda claiming “Well, I don’t think I ever loved you” and him being shocked at this, because, in his own words “LOOK AT THAT SHIT I BOUGHT YOU!”. Anthony in his own warped mind cannot even process that hooking up with an intern blowing 18 year old from a poor family is maybe not the best recipe for genuine love and that, SHOCKINGLY, the relationship will be transactional.

You read, Sue?

 

[Sue Lightning]

I once broke up with a girlfriend by blocking her number. Ant is really relatable to Blue Collar America until he really let the mask slip off. Who else hasn’t left the jobsite at noon on a Friday to go drink at a bar?

I know Artie came after Nana but Anthony really ripped off his whole vibe (hoo hoo BOQ).

Anthony was barely a construction worker as we’ve all gone over. Just like Joe he was more concerned with stealing from the job site than the actual job and let others do the heavy lifting. He doesn’t know anything about AC repair beyond just knowing how to do his job because he never gave a shit. His lifestyle after was smoking crack (something he’ll never cop to doing) and drinking at his mothers bar (Not really emblematic of a blue collar macho guy, but someone who THINKS it is)

Meanwhile Artie was fucking smoking crack and shooting whatever other juices up his arm and, unlike Anthony, didn’t just get his job because he was a minstrel show shucking and jiving clown. He was actually funny in the way that an actual dude on the job site would be.

When Anthony left blue collar work he left it behind. Artie left blue collar work but it didn’t leave him (eewwwwww…). I mean shit Artie got famous and blew it all to get arrested in a parking lot with an 8 ball and he picks up garbage now. THATS the life of an actual blue collar worker, not Anthony, who completely sheltered himself off from society screaming “HAHAHA I’M RICH FUCK YOU ALL!!!!”