Nana is drinking again

[Josef Kuminski]

This shit is hitting way too close for me:

Back in 2008-ish, I thought Ant was "cool" and I definitely admired his McMansion and his cars and him getting big titty porn stars to hang out in his hot tub. Ant was honestly a factor in my decision to live alone, during that era.

After living alone for a while, I could see that it was really impacting my mental health. For instance, there was one night where I went out to dinner (eating alone, of course) and I remember being pissed because the waitress was making small talk with me. The longer I lived alone, the less I wanted to talk to ANYONE.

I was also seeing that every year I got older, it was getting harder and harder to date. I felt like I was headed towards a scenario where I'd be living alone, mad at the world, drinking 24x7, and just generally being an alcoholic self-destructive hermit.

So I got married and settled down.

When Ant got fired, my FIRST THOUGHT was that it would be INCREDIBLY easy for him to blame EVERYTHING on booze and pills. Ant was drunk all the time.

I really and truly think that O&A could have lasted as a show, if Ant had just checked into rehab immediately. The media doesn't like racism, but it tends to give people a pass if they blame everything on booze, drugs and hookers. Tom Sizemore was getting acting gigs a long time after his life went off the rails.

I had to stop drinking a year ago, because I basically trashed my liver. Yesterday I was talking to my wife, about the fact that I have a hard time getting excited about things that I used to love. For instance, I used to looooooove pouring a big tumbler of grapefruit juice and vodka, and then I would make art, sometimes for two days in a row. I was obsessed. And I've really lost enthusiasm for it now, and I couldn't figure out why. If you saw the office that I'm typing this in, it looks like someone's art studio exploded; there's just shit all over the place, from various projects that I've been working on, some for 10+ years. (I once worked on a piece, every day, for an entire year.)

And then my wife explained what's going on: I'm depressed.

It had never even crossed my mind, but I'd basically been pouring vodka into my face hole for decades, and now that I don't drink, the things that I used to love seem kinda stupid. I never actually finish any of my art pieces, I just have a bunch that are half-assed and half-finished. But it looks like the reason I never finished anything was because it was never about finishing something, making art was just something I liked to do while getting fucked up.

When I was 21 I had to stop playing videogames because my obsession with them was ruining my life (lost my job, flunked out of college), and I've always been a bit of a snob about people who spend the weekends pounding beers and playing Playstation. But I'd never even noticed that I'd just replaced "playing videogames" with "making art" and then turned it into the self destruction olympics with liters of vodka.

You’re an adult who can make decisions and seems to take responsibility for them. You understand that actions have consequences and it seems like you’ve owned up to them.

@Sue Lightning , Cumia isn’t immature, he’s just like Rick; a man child. He hired Keith and his wife (later Missy) to basically be his parents and make sure every aspect of being an adult was taken care of. He can’t cook, probably can’t even do basic laundry. Maybe it’s semantics but I think there’s a huge difference between being immature and the kind of learned helplessness people like Cumia exhibit. He’s all id, look at the way he treats his business, “well I’ll show up late (and drunk) and leave as soon as my show is over it’s off to drink, rage tweet and play video games, despite the fact that people are depending on me to make decisions that will effect their livelyhoods.” And he’s always been like that. At any time he could have stood up to Opie during contract negotiations and said “hey dude we need to get this done”. But he didn’t, as soon as it was time to leave he was out the door, let the agent figure it out.

 

[Sue Lightning]

@Sue Lightning , Cumia isn’t immature, he’s just like Rick; a man child.

Yeah but aint that the same thing?

 

[LiberalPussy]

Yeah, the Nicolini shit (scorch.jpeg) is just petty. He clearly never developed the social skills to break up with a chick in a healthy way. I lost a lot of respect for Ant when I heard that compilation.

Didn’t he only have one real girlfriend before marrying Ron Pearlman?

 

[midwit]

I think we need to make up our minds here brothermen. Is Ant a pedophile? Is Ant a homosexual? Is Ant a guy who likes normal hot women but can't pull it off due to emotional instability?

I find it hard to believe that a dude proven to be very into 13 year old girls (so much so that he almost risked his freedom for it) was also genuinely emotionally hurt by a smoking hot adult woman like Stetten. I think that's kind of an either-or type deal?

*Cue the Dave Chappelle joke about fucking a monkey on Wednesday and hitting the club on Friday*

 

[Jack_Horner]

But who gives a fuck? It’s not real self awareness. Nana has gotten away with this shit since O&A was at it’s peak. His ballwashers act like he’s the most internally intellectual person they’ve ever seen because he allows his guests to mock surface level non offensive stuff (You’re a gun nut!) and Ant can say “You know i’m not that good of a friend!”

Ok Anthony. You’re immature. You realized the problem. Now the other half is actually fucking doing something about it. Because self awareness isn’t just being aware of the problem itself but the why and how and then being aware enough to realize it has to change. He has none of the latter. He’ll just say he’s a shitty friend or immature to let everyone know “Hey, if you befriend me, just know i’m a shitty awful person who will fuck you over, and if you have a problem with that i’ll just sit back and say WHAT I TOLD YOU and make it out so that YOU BEING OFFENDED by my lack of giving a shit is YOUR PROBLEM”

When obviously it’s not. It’s him and it’s always been him. And it’s why everyone around him drops like fucking flies. And why he constantly questions why everyone is leaving him. And then he does nothing about it. I don’t think i can hate a single person more than him.

I know that nobody gets my Tom Leykis references (he was basically the west coasts 2nd biggest shock jock when O&A were the east coasts 2nd biggest shock jocks), but I saw a bunch of parallels with Leykis, and he was also someone that I looked up to, until I realized he's just a bridge burning closeted gay man who overcompensates for his homosexuality with big houses, fast cars and young women. Literally Yin to Ant's Yang.

One of Tom's "catchphrases" was "there's the door."

The idea, was basically that he wouldn't take any advice from anyone, and if someone didn't like the way that he's living his life, "there's the door."

Tom became a great big fat person from years of gluttony, and he even had a nationally syndicated show about booze. He ended up looking like this:

And I'm 99% sure that South Park based their "shut in character" on Tom Leykis:

Even the keyboard is the same.

Naturally, Leykis went down the exact same path:

1) He got into legal hot water when accused for beating his wife https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/abuse-rap-dj-who-named-kobes-accuser

2) All of his friends scattered the second he lost his radio gig

3) He took a couple of them and hired them for a podcast behind a paywall that nobody listened to

4) He moved out to the middle of nowhere

In Tom's defense, maybe he figured it out? I can't see his social media because he blocked me a long time ago, but he seems healthier looking now than he's looked in 30 years. Even when Leykis was in his 30s, he looked like he was doing his best imitation of Sam Kinison:

 

[Jack_Horner]

I think we need to make up our minds here brothermen. Is Ant a pedophile? Is Ant a homosexual? Is Ant a guy who likes normal hot women but can't pull it off due to emotional instability?

I find it hard to believe that a dude proven to be very into 13 year old girls (so much so that he almost risked his freedom for it) was also genuinely emotionally hurt by a smoking hot adult woman like Stetten. I think that's kind of an either-or type deal?

All of his girlfriends looked like pre-pubescent boys, until he reached an age where teenagers wouldn't go out with him any longer.

The guns and the Jaguar and the Mustang and the dating in general, seem to be an attempt to overcompensate. Like "oh shit, people are going to figure out I'm gay. Better go buy a manly sports car."

I've personally had long term, intimate relationships with women who were complete lesbians. In the most notable case, she was obsessed with her career and she had a habit of getting fired for sexually harassing female coworkers. Like, she'd line up threesomes with women that she knew, and then the women were thrown for a loop when my lesbian GF would fall in love with them and stalk them. Similar to how Ant met Melissa in a threesome with his wife.

So if a woman can have a multiyear relationship with a man, when she's not even into men, I'm 100% certain than an elderly gentleman can have a multiyear relationship with a woman, even when he's not attracted to women.

 

[Sue Lightning]

I think we need to make up our minds here brothermen. Is Ant a pedophile? Is Ant a homosexual? Is Ant a guy who likes normal hot women but can't pull it off due to emotional instability?

I find it hard to believe that a dude proven to be very into 13 year old girls (so much so that he almost risked his freedom for it) was also genuinely emotionally hurt by a smoking hot adult woman like Stetten. I think that's kind of an either-or type deal?

*Cue the Dave Chappelle joke about fucking a monkey on Wednesday and hitting the club on Friday*

He is in reality a 60 year old man, so he wants to fuck adult women. However his mindset, like many other victims of pedophilia, is stuck in the age he was first assaulted at so in reality he is 12-13. (I don’t give a shit what you fags say, fucking Buzz absolutely did a number on his mind.) So intellectually he is a pedophile because he doesn’t see himself as any different from a teenage girl. There is a pattern with Nana:

-He hooks up with barely legal women and dates them for a few years, meeting the needs for his “adult brain.”
-Towards the end of these relationships he hooks up with underage women on the side to satisfy his “child brain.”
-The cycle repeats again

This has happened in literally every relationship he’s had.

As for him being gay, I don’t think that has anything to do with his upbringing or psychology, he’s just a deeply repressed fruit. Rock Hudson be damned but Anthony has had sex with too many women for me to confidently label him as a full blown fag. If anything he’s “bisexual” the same way Norton is. Intellectually he recognizes he loves women and their forms but also loves cock. The physical form of a man though is not attractive to him so he has to plaster them with wigs and makeup and fake tits to feel like he’s fucking a woman - The thing he’s attracted to.

But I mean to get really psychological about it lets compare Norton and Anthony further. Norton loves humiliation as a part of his early molestation experiences. Alena fills his throat with cock every night because, filled with shame, he gets off on constantly reliving those experiences believing he “deserves it”. This fits in with his self loathing personality perfectly. However, Anthony is a man who is also filled with self loathing but it comes out in rage directed at other people, not himself. (Even if subconsciously this rage is directed at himself he cannot actually take it out on himself). So Nana, instead of reliving his experiences as the abused, attempts to reverse the situation and gain control by becoming the abuser. This is the motivation both for his pedophilia and his faggotry. He fucks young women as a subconscious “revenge” for Buzz making him a victim. He fucks boys as a subconscious “revenge” for that mexican man and Richard subjecting him to faggotry.

 

[John Wayne Gacy]

I love watching this man die.

 

[Jack_Horner]

But Anthony of course just blew it off and as always came to the conclusion that he’s never the problem and everyones just out to get him. One of his biggest problems was Melinda claiming “Well, I don’t think I ever loved you” and him being shocked at this, because, in his own words “LOOK AT THAT SHIT I BOUGHT YOU!”. Anthony in his own warped mind cannot even process that hooking up with an intern blowing 18 year old from a poor family is maybe not the best recipe for genuine love and that, SHOCKINGLY, the relationship will be transactional.

It's the textbook difference between narcissism and borderline personality disorder:

1) Fatrick has BPD. Fatrick couldn't care less if he's getting negative attention or positive attention. But he's addicted to attention. If everyone who's shitting on Fatrick found a new hobby tomorrow, Fatrick would go on Twitter and pick a fight with the world, so that people would engage him. He just doesn't care what type of attention he gets.

2) Narcissist are DEEPLY concerned about what people think of them. Ant was mortified when his fans turned against him. I think it's part of the reason that he tried to pivot towards this Bizarro Sean Hannity persona. He likely thought that his new audience was going to be angry racist Boomers.

Both afflictions have a bunch of other things in common, like impulsive behavior, self-destructive behavior, substance abuse, promiscuity, etc.

 

[BonnieMcFarlaneMe2]

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Jack, do you have anything to say about my girlfriend Kendra Sunderland? Be respectful, AWLROIGHT.

 

[Slackjawed Cow]

I give it till July. That will be the 10 year anniversary of his firing and it will no doubt bring up sour feelings.

Thats about where I was thinking too. Now that he is in the south. He will want to be extra "American". Guns, booze, fireworks..

 

[Jack_Horner]

People keep talking about Jim Norton sucking tranny cock, but I think there's a good chance he doesn't have sex at all.

Even when Jim was in his 30s, he was popping viagra like they're candy, and he really seemed to fetishize the submissive/dominant aspects of sex workers. Like, he would tell that story about a tranny prostitute stealing his glasses when he was out cruising for hoes. It's a funny story, but he also seemed to get off on the humiliation.

Sex workers generally have customers they won't deal with, for various reasons. Typically stalking. And Jim exhibited a lot of stlaker behavior.

For instance, he would tell stories about taking 2-3 tranny prostitutes out for dinner, and he was constantly bringing them on the show. It was pretty obvious that he was trying to leverage his radio gig to strongarm prostitutes into owing him favors. I could totally see a situation where one of those hoes had refused to do any "work" for Jim, and Jim said "well come on the show, I won't make it weird", and they caved because they wanted the "exposure." (The only reason that hoes bring their friends on a "date" is because they don't trust the John; if Jim wasn't such a creep, they would take his money.)

Put all of this together, and I'm willing to bet that Jim believed that he could marry a tranny prostitute and then his tranny prostitute would let Jim watch as they "work."

I put "work" in quotes, because coomers who are on Norton's level, their dicks often stop working. So he could very well be just jerking off from a nearby hotel, or even The Cuck Chair.

The punchline, of course, is that you can't turn a whore into a housewife, and there's no way in hell that a whore will continue working as a whore once there's a ring on that finger.

 

[Jack_Horner]

Jack, do you have anything to say about my girlfriend Kendra Sunderland? Be respectful, AWLROIGHT.

damn shame what happened to her (Blacked)

 

[Slackjawed Cow]

I know that nobody gets my Tom Leykis references (he was basically the west coasts 2nd biggest shock jock when O&A were the east coasts 2nd biggest shock jocks), but I saw a bunch of parallels with Leykis, and he was also someone that I looked up to, until I realized he's just a bridge burning closeted gay man who overcompensates for his homosexuality with big houses, fast cars and young women. Literally Yin to Ant's Yang.

One of Tom's "catchphrases" was "there's the door."

The idea, was basically that he wouldn't take any advice from anyone, and if someone didn't like the way that he's living his life, "there's the door."

Tom became a great big fat person from years of gluttony, and he even had a nationally syndicated show about booze. He ended up looking like this:

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And I'm 99% sure that South Park based their "shut in character" on Tom Leykis:

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Even the keyboard is the same.

Naturally, Leykis went down the exact same path:

1) He got into legal hot water when accused for beating his wife https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/abuse-rap-dj-who-named-kobes-accuser

2) All of his friends scattered the second he lost his radio gig

3) He took a couple of them and hired them for a podcast behind a paywall that nobody listened to

4) He moved out to the middle of nowhere

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In Tom's defense, maybe he figured it out? I can't see his social media because he blocked me a long time ago, but he seems healthier looking now than he's looked in 30 years. Even when Leykis was in his 30s, he looked like he was doing his best imitation of Sam Kinison:

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I wondered what happened to that guy.

 

[Rudderman]

Mr. Cumia, there is a large mass where your liver used to be

: Hahhah, holee shit

Bet it's so big they need two vicars or somethin

 

[satanssockpuppet]

He will be daily drinking by christmas, probably sooner

By summer. Maybe even by Memorial Day. He's doing exactly what every hardcore, steeped-in-denial alcoholic does when a medical crisis forces them to quit against their will. They ease back into it and start rationalizing. "It's just wine, it's not like I'm pounding shots"..."it's just a lite beer, it aids with digestion". He also claimed "I don't keep any in the house", which means he already has booze stashed all over that house. I'd wager that he's already daily drinking right now, and it'll only escalate. He probably had a few bottles stashed away on his "land", so he can sneak a few swigs when he "takes a walk in the woods".

And the Excedrin. Regular Excedrin is caffeine, aspirin, and acetaminophen. Acetaminophen + booze is liver death, aspirin is an anti-coagulant, and caffeine is obviously a stimulant. And who knows what the fuck else he's taking these days.

 

[I'm Not Loying]

Four or five glasses of wine, and having beer and booze afterwards. She "pounded a few Excedrin" before bed to "avoid a hangover."

She also said she drinks unlimited memosas at brunch.

Nana won't live much longer.

Nice quadruple bypass, stupid.

I hate this nigga so much man

 

[Slackjawed Cow]

By summer. Maybe even by Memorial Day. He's doing exactly what every hardcore, steeped-in-denial alcoholic does when a medical crisis forces them to quit against their will. They ease back into it and start rationalizing. "It's just wine, it's not like I'm pounding shots"..."it's just a lite beer, it aids with digestion". He also claimed "I don't keep any in the house", which means he already has booze stashed all over that house. I'd wager that he's already daily drinking right now, and it'll only escalate. He probably had a few bottles stashed away on his "land", so he can sneak a few swigs when he "takes a walk in the woods".

And the Excedrin. Regular Excedrin is caffeine, aspirin, and acetaminophen. Acetaminophen + booze is liver death, aspirin is an anti-coagulant, and caffeine is obviously a stimulant. And who knows what the fuck else he's taking these days.

One thing that is for sure is that we will know when he has a few drinks before recording a show eventually. He cant hide it. I agree that he has a few stashes of booze already. Might even explain his new interest in adventuring into woods surrounding his property. Great way to get out of the house and sneak some drinks so Missy doesnt know.

 

[BenDovid]

I agree that he has a few stashes of booze already

I disagree.

This is why you see him Tweeting from restaurant balconies. His doctor probably told him he can have a drink if he's "out at dinner" so now he's "out at dinner" all the time. I hung out with this man for like 8 years and we ventured outside of his dumb house like 5 times. Suddenly Anthony wants to go out on the town and see what's up? Get the fuck outta here.

 

[Jack_Horner]

By summer. Maybe even by Memorial Day. He's doing exactly what every hardcore, steeped-in-denial alcoholic does when a medical crisis forces them to quit against their will. They ease back into it and start rationalizing. "It's just wine, it's not like I'm pounding shots"..."it's just a lite beer, it aids with digestion". He also claimed "I don't keep any in the house", which means he already has booze stashed all over that house. I'd wager that he's already daily drinking right now, and it'll only escalate. He probably had a few bottles stashed away on his "land", so he can sneak a few swigs when he "takes a walk in the woods".

And the Excedrin. Regular Excedrin is caffeine, aspirin, and acetaminophen. Acetaminophen + booze is liver death, aspirin is an anti-coagulant, and caffeine is obviously a stimulant. And who knows what the fuck else he's taking these days.

damn son, do you work in rehab?

Back when I used to cheat on my GF, my schtick was that I'd go "outside for a cigarette" and then come back around 45 minutes later. It was a way to chat with girls without getting hassled by my GF.

I would also look for excuses to work overnight, and in a couple of cases I told her that I was on a work trip, but I was actually taking my side hoe on vacation.

I had a GF when I met my GF, and I tried to have "the talk" with her about my complete disinterest in being monogamous. But everytime I'd bring it up, she'd just say "I don't want to talk about it."

So I just came up with excuses to stay away from my own house.